Our New Year episode of The TPRM Podcast is live now with the inimitable Bob Lord who led security…

Our New Year episode of The TPRM Podcast is live now with the inimitable Bob Lord who led security as CISO of Yahoo and the DNC, was the US government's go-to on Secure by Design efforts at CISA and is now a leader at the Institute for Security and Technology working to build solutions for security issues at the national policy level.

We talk about his efforts to fight risk myths by raising the visibility of Hacklore, why vendors and not our own users are the problem, how piling on more rules isn’t the answer, the broken incentive structure for software companies and what secure-by-design should actually look like in practice.

Get it everywhere you get your podcasts, links in the comments below!